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How We Would Fight China

The Middle East is just a blip. The American military contest with China in the Pacific will define the twenty-first century. And China will be a more formidable adversary than Russia ever was
by Robert D. Kaplan

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or some time now no navy or air force has posed a threat to the United States. Our only competition has been armies, whether conventional forces or guerrilla insurgencies. This will soon change. The Chinese navy is poised to push out into the Pacific¡ªand when it does, it will very quickly encounter a U.S. Navy and Air Force unwilling to budge from the coastal shelf of the Asian mainland. It's not hard to imagine the result: a replay of the decades-long Cold War, with a center of gravity not in the heart of Europe but, rather, among Pacific atolls that were last in the news when the Marines stormed them in World War II. In the coming decades China will play an asymmetric back-and-forth game with us in the Pacific, taking advantage not only of its vast coastline but also of its rear base¡ªstretching far back into Central Asia¡ªfrom which it may eventually be able to lob missiles accurately at moving ships in the Pacific.

In any naval encounter China will have distinct advantages over the United States, even if it lags in technological military prowess. It has the benefit, for one thing, of sheer proximity. Its military is an avid student of the competition, and a fast learner. It has growing increments of "soft" power that demonstrate a particular gift for adaptation. While stateless terrorists fill security vacuums, the Chinese fill economic ones. All over the globe, in such disparate places as the troubled Pacific Island states of Oceania, the Panama Canal zone, and out-of-the-way African nations, the Chinese are becoming masters of indirect influence¡ªby establishing business communities and diplomatic outposts, by negotiating construction and trade agreements. Pulsing with consumer and martial energy, and boasting a peasantry that, unlike others in history, is overwhelmingly literate, China constitutes the principal conventional threat to America's liberal imperium.

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on Jul 10, 2005

The Middle East is just a blip. The American military contest with China in the Pacific will define the twenty-first century. And China will be a more formidable adversary than Russia ever was
by Robert D. Kaplan


Kaplan was looking very far into the future say 30 to 50 years out when he made those comments. . I remember journalist Lutz Kleiveman discussing the very subject. The only way China can militarize at the moment is through Russia. From the research I have done with China's current trading partners China will not be a military power for another 25 years maybe more. That doesn't mean they are without influence.

Where China can hurt the american econonmy is through competition of dwindling resources. The two biggest trends in the 21st century is the rising yuan currency and the falling dollar. Sooner or later people are going to shy away from a currency with twin deficit problems. China will use their immense dollar reserves and start purchasing american companies such as unocal. Canada's Noranda has been bought along with a spot in the athabasca oil sands. With a significantly larger population this is a case of competing with some of the deepest pockets in the world.

They also are setting up a trading block which will upset the conservative right. Iran, Russia, and China are making inroads into the caspian. They are setting up a central asian trading block with the former soviet satellite states. How does this affect joe sixpack? The more trade that occurs the more the smaller states - Kazikstan, Turkmenstan, and even Chavez's Venezuala will do business with them. What will be interesting is to see how many conventional trading partners turn to this new block. Considering the paranoia of muslim attacks is on the rise, look for continuing isolation and xenophobia from american leaders. They may set up more trade barriers much like that of Iran. If enough trade is lost the world's most expensive military machine will lose the ability to maintain a foreign presence (bases). Look for them to invent a panic scenario.

The point is expect to see western media display this as a conspiratorial collusion which is based more out of economic neccessity than anything else.
on Jul 10, 2005
The purchasing of american companies started the second they bought IBM'S PC division. Unocal is the 2nd act.

The smart thing to do is to not buy chinese products. Boycott!
on Jul 10, 2005
200 million chinaman enslave approixmately1 billion of their fellow chinaman. If they need some guns to keep that act going Isay ship 'em guns. 1 billion slaves sure keeps things dirt cheap here in Walmart/Oil/Blue States of America. I just bought me some sleeprs, sunglasses, and ashtrays. All for less than a buck each. Boy, how can Iget me one of them chinaman slaves.
on Jul 10, 2005
I my so is not racisit. He's just a rebel. Burn that cross Dr. Hitler. BTW, Big Leroy says bend over and say hello stinky. Dr. klan man pick up a gun and go to Iraq, badass.
on Jul 10, 2005
my so is not racisit. He's just a rebel. Burn that cross Dr. Hitler. BTW, Big Leroy says bend over and say hello stinky. Dr. klan man pick up a gun and go to Iraq, badass.


Hey jerk-wad...if I could I WOULD!!! Either way STFU! Burn a cross? Highly doubtful. Never in my life have I even been close enough to light one, let alone having been to the gathering/ceremony.
on Jul 11, 2005
It's quite interesting: When China began to adopt a open-up and reform policy in 1970s, many US believe it's the starting point of peaceful regime change in China and then begins the so called harneymoon period between China and US. But soon after the end of the cold war, when China don't collapsed as US wished, American believe China is a kind of threat in one night.

here comes the interesting question about the relationship between real national interests and its idealogical clother. US, especially US normal people are far from admit they perfer the real national interests honestly, they tend to use a kind of idealogical clother to get more legitimacy for their hegmony behavior.

I don't think Mr. Kaplan is concern about the issue will happen in 30 or 50 years later. His concern reflect kind of scaring among US people as a generaly: they feel tired and scared. They don't like to afford the cost of the hegemony of the world, but still want to get benefit from it. So they tend to ask China to share the burden of US bill. The exchange rate issue rooted in a basic fact: US dollar, not Chinese Yuan is today's world currency. If US wants China to high value Yuan, the simplest way is to admit that US unwilling to make the dollar to be world currency. Would US government and the giant companies would do that ? I don't think so.
on Jul 11, 2005
To thatoneguyinslc,

Ok, if you don't want to buy China products, then stop using your computer at first or at least stop using for keyboard first. They may be produced in China. Then take off all of your clothese second, they may be made in China. At last stop eating any food that produced with the fertilize made in China.

Soon after 14 or more days, I hope you will disappear in this globalized world and go to see the Greatest glorious.

Byebye, Mr. Naive
on Jul 11, 2005

To thatoneguyinslc,

Ok, if you don't want to buy China products, then stop using your computer at first or at least stop using for keyboard first


Only goes to show what you DON'T know! Try Tiawan or Korea for computer stuff, NOT the R.O.C.! And not ALL clothing is made in China, nor is all fertilizer. So grow up and grow a brain. If your going to talk smack, at least be well versed on the subject BEFORE you open your mouth!